Revan in The Old Republic

Here at Darth Hater we’ve gone over Revan’s past in the Knights of the Old Republic series. Now it’s time to go over what Revan has been up to since he left for parts unknown, apparently never to return. Hit the jump to join us on the journey.

Warning! Spoilers ahead!

Conversations with Scourge (Republic)

Jedi Knight players will eventually run into the Emperor’s Wrath, Lord Scourge – a Sith Lord who has lived for centuries. After a little while, he joins your party to help you destroy his master. Having lived during the times of Revan’s invasion of the Republic and his redemption, Lord Scourge gives a pretty decent account of Revan’s disappearance and brings the players who didn’t read the “Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan” novel up to speed.

As it turns out, the Emperor granted Scourge immortality because he foiled Revan and Meetra Surik’s assassination attempt. Why this confusing turn, you may ask? If you develop your relationship with Scourge and unlock all his conversations, you find out that Scourge initially joined Revan’s attempt on the Emperor because, after seeing Vitiae’s consumption of power firsthand (he essentially drains the Force out of an entire planet to fuel himself), Scourge believed that the Emperor would eventually destroy the galaxy. Therefore, Scourge committed himself to ending the Emperor’s life, only to have a Force Vision change his mind. This vision revealed to him Revan and Meetra Surik failing, but another Jedi Knight succeeding in defeating the Emperor. Therefore, at the moment of truth, Scourge betrayed Revan, killed Meetra Surik, and was rewarded by the Emperor with immortality.

Upon seeing the player’s Jedi Knight, however, Scourge finally meets the Jedi whom he saw in his vision all those centuries ago and once again joins in on the effort to destroy the Emperor.

The Revanites (Imperial)

Any player new to The Old Republic series will be introduced to the enigma that is Revan on Dromund Kaas. A Sith Apprentice called Sandor asks you to infiltrate a cult in the jungle known as the Revanites. Once there, you are to discover the identity of the leader of the Revanites and to report back. Sandor gives you a token that grants initial access to the Revanite camp.

In order to gain their trust, you must carry out a series of tasks for fellow Revanites. Their quests are meant to teach the player the lessons of Revan, at least as they understood him. To the Revanites, Revan was a Sith Lord who mastered both the Dark and Light sides of the Force. Through this understanding of both sides of the Force, Revan acquired untold power that the Revanites covet for themselves. Obviously, the Dark Council and the rest of the Imperials are against any practitioners of the Light side, so the destruction of the Revanites is critical.

The Revanites are composed of more than just Sith looking to unravel Revan’s connection with the Force. Their ranks include Mandalorians and Imperial Soldiers, both of which play a part in the player’s “pilgrimage” quest. 

At the end of the questline, you are finally granted an audience with the leader of the Revanites. As it turns out, the leader of the Revanites is a woman; a female Sith named Tari Darkspanner. The player then has a choice, either tell Sandor the truth – which leads to Tari’s agonizing demise and the destruction of the Revanite cult – or you can lie and tell Sandor that it is his master who leads them – which leads to Sandor’s demise.

Rewards:
Title – The Revanite
Codex – Revanite Compound

Codex Entry: Revanite Compound (Imperial Codex)

Outsiders in Sith society, followers of the philosophies of the mysterious Darth Revan meet in a hidden enclave in the jungles of Dromund Kaas, submitting any who wants to join them to rigorous tests to establish their loyalty and sincerity.

Originally, the Revanites met in Kaas City to study Revan’s teachings, but as suspicions arose about the Revanites’ loyalties to the Emperor and the Dark Council, they were forced to conceal their activities. At first, they took shelter in the compound of a prominent Sith Lord, but when that Sith was assassinated (presumably for supporting the Revanites), they were forced to relocate their sacred texts and relics and build their sanctuary in the jungle.

Revanites inside the Imperial military and the Sith have kept the compound from appearing on most scans of the area. Explorers who stumble upon the compound are rarely heard from again.

Taral V (Republic)

Taral V is a planet controlled by the Empire. On it is a Gree Computer necessary for the Republic to find the prison within the Maelstrom that holds the missing Jedi. This Jedi, they believe, is key to a Republic victory. Players are sent by Jedi Master Oteg to complete the mission.

Although you don’t actually meet Revan during the Flashpoint, you are contacted by a Jedi Ghost, Meetra Surik. Better known as the Jedi Exile, Meetra Surik is the canon version of the protagonist from Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. At the end of that game, Surik left for parts unknown to find her lost leader Revan.

The Revan novel covers her story after that. In it, she eventually meets Revan, who had been captured by the Sith Empire. Although she and Revan break free and are aided by Lord Scourge, as explained before, their attempt on The Emperor’s life falls apart as Scourge foresees the attack failing and kills Surik. Hence the reason she appears as a Force Ghost in SWTOR.

Maelstrom Prison (Republic)

After using the Gree Computer to find the coordinates for the prison where Revan is kept, the player is sent to the prison to enact a rescue operation. 

Revan is guarded by Grand Moff Kilran, one of the big players in the Old Republic universe. After defeating him, you end up freeing Revan who, after hundreds of years of captivity, is not exactly grateful.

Turns out, Revan had actually been exerting his own influence on the Emperor as he was held in the prison. Thanks to Revan, the Emperor had agreed to peace with the Republic in the last war, despite the Republic being helpless. The Emperor also had maintained the peace, despite many people in his Empire being very eager to reignite hostilities. Revan fears that being freed will cause the war to continue and that his sacrifice will have been in vain.

However, the ghost of Meetra Surik appears and convinces Revan to help the Republic fight back. Revan, moved by his fallen friend’s words (which are inaudible to the players), agrees and makes plans to activate a secret facility capable of turning the tide of the war.

Rewards: 
Title – Rider of the Maelstrom
Codex – Revan

Codex Entry: Revan (Republic Codex)

An influential figure in both the Mandalorian Wars and the Jedi Civil War, the man known as “Revan” was Jedi, Sith and general across his long career. As a charismatic young Jedi Knight, Revan ignored the Jedi Council’s orders to remain neutral in the Mandalorian Wars and led many Jedi, including his friend Malak, into battle. While pursuing the remnants of the beaten Mandalorian fleet, Revan encountered the Sith Emperor on Dromund Kaas and – also alongside Malak – fell to the dark side.

Becoming Darth Revan, he led his followers in a war to conquer the Republic and re-establish a Sith Order, until he was betrayed and nearly killed by Malak. As a result of his injuries, Revan lost his memory and was given a new identity by the Jedi Council. The reborn Revan fought against his old followers, defeating Malak and redeeming himself – but the existence of the true Sith Empire, hidden away in the dark of the galaxy, remained a secret.

In the aftermath, as his memory began to return, Revan left the Republic to confront the Sith Emperor – but his plans to destroy the Emperor failed. Revan’s allies were killed and Revan himself was imprisoned, kept alive by unnatural means for three hundred years while the Sith Emperor fed on his strength. However, the link between them went both ways, and Revan was able to subtly keep the Emperor in check.
With Revan now free, questions remain – both about the possibility of renewed aggression from the Emperor, and what effect such a long exposure to the Sith Emperor’s mind may have had on Revan himself.

Boarding Party (Imperial)

The Imperials find out that the escaped Jedi Master has begun a mass production of droids on a secret asteroid base known only as “The Foundry." With its ability to provide the Republic with an infinite supply of battle droids and ships, The Foundry is capable of completely change the face of the war. The Imperial Strike team is tasked with finding and destroying the Jedi Master who is operating the base. To do that, they will first have to capture one of the ships that contain the coordinates to the base.

Boarding Party has an entire Imperial fleet attack a single ship, Dorin’s Sky. The ship’s captain is willing to self-detonate in order to protect the secrets of The Foundry, but the boarding party manages to prevent this and takes over the ship.

The Foundry (Imperial)

The Foundry Flashpoint marks the end of Revan’s involvement thus far in The Old Republic. Upon reaching The Foundry, the group is accosted by the numerous droids created by the facility. Before the players get to Revan, they run into another familiar face from the franchise: HK-47. 

HK-47 is Revan’s assassination droid, created back when Revan first returned to conquer the Republic hundreds of years ago. A massive fan favorite, HK-47 is known for his extremely blunt and sociopathic statements that are always prefaced with a speech conditional that describs the type of statement that it is (e.g. “Commentary: As do I. It is our lot in life I suppose, Master. Shall we find something to kill to cheer ourselves up?”). Although HK-47 was transferred between multiple owners after the loss of Revan, he – coincidentally – found his way back to his original master during Knights of the Old Republic and travelled with Revan to parts unknown. However, they were eventually separated again after the Ebon Hawk returned without Revan, and Meetra Surik rebuilt HK-47.


Eventually, it is revealed that the Jedi Master in charge is Revan, who is attempting to destroy all beings with any Sith genes in them (which – it turns out – is almost all of the Empire’s population). It is he who powers The Foundry, a sibling of the Star Forge – which Revan controlled in Knights of the Old Republic and used to build a limitless fleet of ships. Revan, supremely confident in his abilities because of his mastery of both the Dark and Light sides of the Force, is defeated by the strike team, echoing the words his former apprentice spoke when he was defeated by Revan himself. However, it is not confirmed if Revan is actually killed (he did die in beta, they changed it), since he disappears in a surge of Force Lightning.

Rewards:
Title – The Unmasked
Codex – Revan Reborn

Codex Entry: Revan Reborn (Imperial Codex)

The Republic hero known as “Revan” had a turbulent past. As a Jedi general in the Mandalorian Wars, he led Republic forces to victory. As Darth Revan, corrupted by the will of the Sith Emperor, he became the Republic’s deadliest enemy. Betrayed by his apprentice, Malak, Revan lost his memory and was given a new identity by the Jedi Council. He then pursued and destroyed Malak, redeeming himself before his memories of the Sith Empire began to return.

Revan left known space intending to find and stop the Sith Emperor, but his plan failed. He was captured and held in stasis by the Emperor for more than three hundred years, where he suffered under the Emperor’s mental interrogation. He escaped at last, and it is clear that centuries spent linked to the Emperor’s mind had a profound effect on him. During the Mandalorian Wars, Revan was willing to sacrifice his own troops to achieve military objectives; his creation of extermination droids now goes even further, demonstrating Revan’s fanatical belief that any sacrifice is worthwhile to stop the Emperor.

Perhaps he is mad – the cost, paid willingly, to battle the Emperor’s will and even exert his own influence on the Emperor to keep him in check. Or perhaps the ideals of the Jedi proved insufficient, in the end, for a man neither Jedi nor Sith.

Current Whereabouts / Possible Future in The Old Republic

Currently, Revan’s whereabouts are unknown. Having been defeated at The Foundry with his plan for defeating the Empire in ruins, Revan could be dead, recuperating, or just plain gone. However, I doubt that BioWare will let such a central figure to the Old Republic franchise exit in such an ignominious fashion (dying in a Flashpoint? Come on!), and the fact that you don’t actually finish Revan off is probably a good indication of that. Here’s hoping we see some more awesome Revan content in the future!

Comments

  • #15 ChampStanley

    Speaking from the perspective of someone who didn't play KOTOR, I can start by saying that I think of Revan as "a" character and not "my" character, but I was still interested in the Revan storyline, especially as it plays out in the game

    Certainly the Revanite storyline on Dromund Kaas is one of the better quest chains in the game, and the Boading Party/Foundry and Taral V/Maelstrom Prison flashpoints mesh together really well. It's worth rolling up an opposite faction alt solely to see the other half of that story.

    As far as Revan himself and how he ends up, it works for me on several levels. That he goes bonkers after being imprisoned by and sharing the headspace of the Emperor for three hundred years doesn't shock me at all. When he starts in on his messianic ranting in the Foundry, my neutral bounty hunter figured she was doing both the Empire and the Republic a favor by taking this nutter out

    That he shows up and makes his exit during the mid-level of the character's progression just as they’re coming into their own works as an effective passing of the torch to the player characters. Revan had his day, but now it's time for a new generation of heroes to take over. I think the Jedi Knight's interactions with Scourge make this point explicitly.

    I don’t think anyone really thinks we’ve seen the last of Revan. When I did Foundry with a friend we had a lengthy debate about what happened. I thought he pulled an Obi-wan and gave himself up to the Force, but my friend took the beam-me-up tack. If it’s true that it’s the Rakata transporter effect that zaps him at the end, then I suspect my friend was right.

    The writers and many fans love Revan, but I don’t want to see him turn into the Thrall of the SWTOR universe. I spent WOW’s Cataclysm playing second banana to an NPC, but I think SWTOR has done a great job of making the PCs feel like the center of the story and, by the time, they reach level 50, at least on par with the major lore characters. Obviously, Malgus of course, but I doubt Satele (who I adore) could stand up to a vengeful team of Sith characters. I’d hate for Revan to show up again and hog all the glory. Likewise the thought of Revan as raid boss feels weird to me too. That said I’d be happy to be proven wrong on either count.

    Last edited by ChampStanley on 10/11/2012 1:26:02 PM
  • #13 sclark1138

    I need to re-read the book, but is Revan also immortal, or was it his prison which kept him young? I had thought Vitiate made Revan immortal in order to torment him as long as he could, and find out how he broke free of the mind domination.

  • #14 alexsau91

    There's no evidence thus far to suggest that Revan's immortal, (not least in the way that Scourge and the Emperor are), it was likely the prison. Also the Sith Emperor is no longer 'Vitate', he abandoned that name long before meeting Revan.... he is now the simply the Emperor. 

  • #11 betawa

    I love KOTOR I & II, but i did not like how BioWare put Revan (the Exile, ...) into SW:TOR. The is no fascination like in KOTOR I & II. You just meet him and he is a boring idiot. Yes BioWare put the name Revan in the game, but the story in SW:TOR in generall is nothing like in KOTOR I & II, the are no story twists, the is no exploration - ist just lienear, no suspense. It's disappointing.

    I miss someone like Kreia in SW:TOR!

    Last edited by betawa on 10/11/2012 4:21:34 AM
  • #17 RogueJedi86

    You build up Revan a little too much. He had basically no personality in the KotOR games since everything he did was defined by the player's choices, meaning he had no "canon" personality. Even the backstory pre-KotOR was very vague on who he actually was(he didn't even get a canon face until TOR, for crying out loud!), giving no help on the matter.

    The non-personality carried over into his depiction in the "Revan" novel, being one of the main faults I saw slung at that book.

    Hell, TOR built up a bit of a personality for me, at least through my interactions with him in the Maelstrom Prison. He seemed bitter after so many years under the Emperor's thumb, and dealing with what he'd done in the Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War. I finally saw an actual personality that was previously undefined due to players' wide range of choices resulting in a vaguely described persona.

    Not every story has to have twists. KotOR was still pretty linear. You could never choose to join Malak or anything like that. I largely feel Revan's story as it was exposed in KotOR was boring. I loved the early pre-release TOR stuff that tied him to the Sith Emperor, finally giving him a bigger picture story than just "This is Revan, he is perfect and awesome and did nothing wrong". Suddenly he'd made a deal with the devil and it bit him in the ass in the long run.

    And as ChampStanley said above, TOR is our story, not his, so passing the torch to us was very important.

  • #10 derpdeedoo

    I think Revan should just come in and kill the retarted dread masters. That would be amazing

  • #9 PatrickLaske

    When Revan reaches about 3% in Foundry he will activate a Rakata Transporter, become immune to all attacks, and port out.  You can tell what it is if you ever go to Belsavis, the same flashy light that activates when you hit a transporter happens there.  Your dialogue options immediately following make it clear that your character is ... bothered by the encounter, giving you the option to lie or distort the truth to the Imperial Captain ("Would I be contacting you if I hadn't killed the Jedi?").   The follow up dialogue makes it clear with Malek they were intentionally hiding the information from you, and with good reason.  If truly given the option some of us might have joined him.  The Emperor is actually quite mad and has to be stopped, and Revan just might be the only way to do it.

     

    The real problem with the encounter is that it is inappropriate for a mid level dungeon.  The whole thing is just epic, from boarding party to the final match.  The solution is *still able to be done* Bioware.

     

    Swap the dungeons with Red Reaper and Directive 7.  RR and D7 work just as easily as mid level dungeons, especially if you tone down a fight.  The encounters in both fights are easy, but require you to actually *think* about them to solve them.  Further, D7 is a very silly dungeon, having a GIANT CRANE ATTACK THE PARTY... why is this a Capstone flashpoint?

     

    For further changes, I'd switch up the first boss of Foundry, giving it a STORM protocol attack that X-RR has in Eternity Vault -> hinting of the next level of content, and I'd probably just revamp the Bonus boss for something sweeter... since tricking republic fleet into smashing into asteroids *clearly* summons a giant space bug that looks like a giant version of the same stupid bugs we fought on Korriban.  How about the actual Empire Strikes Back slug, Bioware?  Or how about something with the Cult of Revan stopping us for the mini-boss between these two, instead of hoards of random Jedi and Droids.

    Foundry is otherwise a great flashpoint, it just stinks that Bioware chose to put it in the middle of the game.

  • #16 RogueJedi86

    Why can't we have epic content at mid-level? Must mid-level content be boring crud that isn't worth remembering? I love that we got some nice great lore encounters at mid-level. Having an epic fight at mid-level that you'd have to level 85 levels to see equivalents of in WoW? I'm not complaining. The only difference is a few more levels, slightly bigger health pools and a few more attacks.

    Plus it's not like Revan died, so he wasn't given a terrible sendoff.

  • #18 PatrickLaske

    The number one complain is that the story is wrong for midlevel characters to be doing.  Darth Revan is probably top 5 strongest Sith or Jedi to ever exist in the Star Wars canon, and for him to be taken down by a group of wannabe pirates and ghost hunters is kind of silly.

     

    Further, the storyline for Maelstrom Prison and Foundry work better at the end of the game.  The Epic Fleet battle brewing overhead while you tunnel into the heart of an ancient Rakata Prison, marking not some random Cold war encounter, but a perfectly picked battleground for the Republic and Empire to strike against. Imagine how much more powerful the prison's reveal would be if you were able to connect it to your proudest moments on Belsavis, the bosses acting as sign posts for the coming horrors of the Eternity Vault.  Imagine instead of a 2 part mid-season lark, you have it as an EPIC 4 Part miniseries stretching from Boarding Party(44), Foundry (47), Battle of Ilum(49), and finally, False Emperor (50).

  • #19 RogueJedi86

    Revan was greatly weakened after 300 years imprisoned. He was a big shot in his prime, but a lot of time has passed since then. We players are among the very best in the galaxy at this point. We're not random faceless nobodies, we're Cipher Nine, Champion of the Great Hunt, and other assorted important people. Not to mention that Revan doesn't even die, so his legacy isn't diminished.

    TOR really is all about passing the torch from the KotOR generation to the TOR generation. 300 years have passed, do we really need to drag our feet with the shadows of characters and events from 300 years past? TOR wisely made that clear just past the midway point in the story.

  • #5 Leiralei

    The way he was written on Empire side was just pathetic. He wasn't even worth fighting, half mad and douchey. Wiping out all Sith dna would do what, exactly? Kill a bunch of light side Sith and most of humanity? Sigh... the great Revan deserves better than that and with Meetra Surik helping keep his sanity for 300 years you'd think he'd know better!

    Hate to say it but Star Wars mythology got bad when George Lucas insisted Force Sensitivity was hereditary. It used to be a cool spirituality, almost Eastern philosophy, then got dumb when it went scientific instead. The blend of spirituality and space tech it started off as was the most awesome part of the whole thing.

  • #6 DarthSerious

    I think people are just going against the grain with it being hereditary. Maybe more context is needed.

    For example you liked the idea of how spirituality is separate from being hereditary  Well, what if spirituality was hereditary? For example many insects pass dna instructions on how to do certain procedures in their lives without having to learn them, so its not a stretch.

    There is something beautiful in the fact that our dna can be an extension of life lessons learned from our ancestors. Maybe that is the point of the force also being hereditary  Its not spelled out for us, but I think that is also a nice way of looking at it being hereditary. 

    Sure, by it being spiritual it removes the concept of a natural gift, but spirituality still comes from understanding, and therefore that level of understanding still requires a person to be gifted to understand things spiritually either way. So being born gifted to be more spiritual with understanding, or being born gifted with more midichlorians (sp) and good understanding are quite similar, imo.

     

    Last edited by DarthSerious on 10/10/2012 8:28:10 PM
  • #2 WildJedi

    The Foundry suck so hard ! talk about destroying a great canon character so the Imp loving bioware devs could have some fun and kill him in a midd lvl flashpoint. So patetic, bioware if they hadd made a new republic mmo that would have been Luke the players could kill.After i played that FP i lost all respect for bioware and Drew Karpyshyn. Talk about selling out your integrity.Revan the great champion of the Republic, that anyone midd lvl can kil over and over again like some weak mobb.But at endgame you have a lizzard Trandoshan wiping 16 players......patetic patetic....

    Last edited by WildJedi on 10/10/2012 4:50:07 PM
  • #4 YodasEvilTwin

    > However, it is not confirmed if Revan is actually killed (he did die in beta, they changed it), since he disappears in a surge of Force Lightning.

    Quite obviously they have bigger plans for Revan.  Get a grip and learn to write.

  • #8 pairaka

    Revan went to meet Daniel Jackson and the Ancients. ;)

     

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