Retention as it Relates to Star Wars: The Old Republic

Retention as it Relates to Star Wars: The Old Republic

We previously touched on our opinion regarding BioWare and LucasArts focusing on avoiding common MMO problems as a basis of our speculation articles. Many of the common problems relating to the retention success and failures were highlighted in BioWare Austin's Co-Studio Director Gordon Walton and consultant Scott Hartsman's GDC session, "MMO Retention -- Learning From The First 25 Years." During the talk, these industry veterans provided some insight into possible retention strategies in Star Wars: The Old Republic. We spent over a month listening to this presentation, debating all of its points, and dissecting it to find all the clues we believe are hidden within.
The pressure to retain customers gets stronger as you acquire more of them because you constantly lose a portion of your base over time; this is true of any industry. "We don't want to make easy opportunities for customers to exit," explained Gordon Walton. For an MMO to be truly successful, the experience must be so compelling that you continue to play, and eventually become an evangelist of the game itself. Additionally, they need to identify these evangelists and give them the tools to do what they do best: getting more people to play the game in their own language.

Walton also stressed fulfilling the promise of "always on, 24 x 7 x 365" by firmly stating that developers must establish ongoing service and support as relational to not having a static game. He describes this as a "horizon of experience," meaning there always needs to be someplace new for players to explore and experience. Walton believes that if people think they've found the edges and seen everything, then they may feel that they "won the game," and quit. This acknowledgment leads us to believe we're in for a heightened schedule of content updates as subscribers, possibly meaning something on a regular basis instead of a more sporadic one -- and not just for one play style.



If you think of it as an inverse of other MMOs, then this logic begins to makes sense. Instead of artificially prolonging existing content until the next batch is ready, they are going to be more proactive about supplying new content so there isn't a lull in between major updates. And we think it can't simply apply to just PvE; too many MMO developers regard PvP strictly "player-created content" without regularly providing fresh, engaging structures or scenarios for players to master.

However, there needs to be a comfort zone when it comes to implementing such changes: it can't be overly repetitive to the point where the player feels the experience isn't rewarding. There is a finite population of masochists in the world, and Walton chuckled as he stated that if a developer chooses to focus on catering to them, then he wishes them the best of luck. Most people really want a lot of variety while staying in their comfort zone of play.

Walton also felt that Everquest's leveling experience was too hardcore (he actually used the word "sadistic" to describe it), and Everquest2's mentoring service was an improvement. But it is also important to point out that the major concept in MMORPG retention was "praying to the God of Repetition and you will be rewarded" -- i.e. The Grind. If The Grind isn't well masked, then retaining subscribers won't go so well as a result. There needs to be new ways of implementing character progression where you feel you are constantly making your character more powerful no matter what your play style. BioWare is setting itself up to be in a position where they have to constantly innovate and test those innovations because the last thing they want you to do is "poke through that veil and think you are doing the same stupid stuff over and over again." And Walton reassured us that the best thing is not to make "stupid things" at all.



People don't like to feel dumb playing a game, and instead feel like "if I spend time applying myself, then I have more skill, and my character gets more powerful (as a result)." And on the same topic of the importance of player mastery, developers need to stop viewing some things as "exploits" or negative actions because the player feels the exact opposite, i.e. "I'm using the game rules to make myself better." Walton alluded to cries for balance in a MMO might be something the developers eschew a bit for one reason: sometimes a slight imbalance is fun for the player, and the developers shouldn't be pitted against the player for it.

As the session continued, Walton pointed out one of the key drivers of retention in an MMO is a "persistence of the data, and the persistence of what you've actually done in the world stays there. That is one of the biggest promises made to people, and believe me, not being persistent is very anti-retention. All you have to do is mess with their data, and you can pretty much guarantee their exit."
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  • #52
    /cancel LOTRO for one reason and one reason only. Certain dungeons required a gear set called "The Radiance Set" once gear becomes more important for my character to advance I always lose interest. Players pay the same exact amount as everyone else and should never be denied any content whatsoever
  • #57
    I totally agree with this... Gear should help, amplify, assist, and motivate, but should never ever ever restrict or alienate any of the player base.
  • #58
    100% agreement. Being knowledgable about your character class and it's skills "should" be the number 1 determining factor in success in a MMO whether it is PVE, raids, or PVP... as soon as it becomes more about the equipment you're essentially "dumbing down" the game to it's lowest common denomenator - time.

    Time spent in game is, and should always be, a contributing factor in player success, but once it becomes the most important factor then you're basically making a game for mindless, grind-tastic, morons.
  • #50
    Community. That is all.

    Seriously, all the new dungeons, bosses and gear mean nothing if there isn't an active community to make it all worth experiencing. It seems like BioWare is aware of this, so we can hope we will see the importants of the game's community take a front seat in the development.
  • #53
    completely agree
  • #47
    While I enjoy this article I had to make the comment. I really do hope they dont make space something you have to do. Flying around wise an what not. Space combat is very boring an makes me feel as if Im playing some ace combat crap. To me if I wanted to experince space I might as well just go back to my sto account.
    An as for GW talking about UO an what it does well I tend to think if UO was had such good things then the player base would have been better. I didnt find anything good about the game threw videos an reading.. An so I feel I saved money. Just hope that if player house are all instance based if that is put in. An I also hope they dont add in guild perks. I feel that would be horriable an make me feel forced to join a guild.

    Good article though I enjoyed the reading.
  • #54
    Yes I believe the Devs are totally aware of this. I was reading about it an article about the expansion for SWG "the jump to light speed". They even admitted it didnt work the way the wanted to. The only good thing that i really liked in Jump to lightspeed was the free cruiser you get..hence more inventory space. It was fun decorating the Lando Calrisian Luxury yacht and boy did I pimp that ship out. Bioware knows that they cant makes to separate games within one. Land/Space will have to meld seemlessly together. I would assume you have your ship and when yu take off it would be similar in scope to Mass Effect2 set up. you have alot of areas on your ship that you can visit and hangout in. Maybe even have crafting room there blah blah blah. Then when you leavea planet a cutscene would be activated ......you leave your dock see your ship fly away into space. Then once you are in space you then decide what planet you are goin to next hit the hyperspace button and WAMMO off you go. But, I also see this as a great opportunity for the Devs to make our ship customizable to suite our individual tastes. Our ship would be great place to store extra equipment. have the freedom to walk around your ship, change the engines out or make yur cockpit customizable,things like that.
  • #49
    UO was the first MMO and its first 2 years were awesome. If you didnt play it then, its hard to understand how different it was then, and how good it was then. The GM's were heavily involved in the game, like when they spawned 2000 trolls in the north nerfed all the guards and overran all the northern cities. Or when they introduced a new dungeon the had a huge horde of undead spawning at the entrance and spreading over the world from that spot. UO went downhill after they stopped being involved and the top guys left, then it just became a macro a magic user in 2 days and run around in a deathrobe with a handful of reagents.
  • #55
    that sounded like alot of fun ..yes if the devs are totally involved in the ingame world and have stuff happen randomly like that where we as players worldwide go and try to stop them ...man I see possiblilties there
  • #46
    Loved the article, it gave very good details about what could possibly be in swtor. Please more articles just like this.
  • #42
    "Players having fun is "working as intended" was the recurrent theme throughout the entire presentation. They stressed the importance of not falling into a trap where developers are making the game for themselves, but as one for the players to constantly enjoy. The only reliable gauge of enjoyment is qualitative or quantitative data coming from subscribers of the game, and people who quit usually do it quietly"

    I found this part of the article interesting and recently commented on the official forums regarding this same topic. All too often developers get caught up in world building without checking to see if players are actually having fun in their worlds. They could not be more spot on when they say that people who quit usually do it quietly. Most never go post on the official forums complaining and threatening to quit to try to make a point. Most just simply quit.

    Great article DH!

    Mezentius
  • #44
    I come and go, with regards to WoW. But I will say that there have been many-a-time that I have said to myself "What is this? and why is this here?" with regards to the person in house who thought that it was relevant to put said "game feature/element" in the the game/world/environment, when it really wasn't needed or was pointless. And to me this took me out the immersion I was feeling at that time within the game.

    And I assume this is because the team/person behind it did it for there sake with out truly asking if it was relevant to the gamer playing the game as a whole.

    Good post Mezentius
  • #41
    Every time I read something TOR related I get the illusion that this game is going to be perfect in every way. Can Bioware ever do something wrong? It sounds like they know what they are doing.
  • #37
    Well I was bored and finally used my Youtube account for something. Here's all 7 facial animation examples used at GDC.

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  • #45
    Thanks, this is awesome

    I love that Ithorian.
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