First, Rob Chestney explained how the events portrayed in Obsidian's Knights of the Old Republic 2 are relevant to Star Wars: The Old Republic, but were not covered withing the Timeline series:
Hey Folks, always nice to see the healthy debate sparked by the Timeline pieces. I love Star Wars history and particularly anything relating to KotOR. Even though KotOR 2 was developed by another developer, lots of folks at BioWare played and enjoyed it, including myself. If you look closely within the game, you will find several references to events or characters from KotOR 2, and we absolutely treat it as canon. I will also say that there have been discussions about the final fate of the Exile, who was indeed a woman according to the canon.
When outlining the Timeline series, though, we skipped over the events of KotOR2 for a few reasons:
(SPOILER ALERT if you haven't played KotOR 2)
Essentially, what happened in KotOR 2 is that a few years after Revan disappeared, a new trinity of Sith Lords materialized and drove the Jedi into hiding. Kreia (aka Darth Traya) sought out the Jedi Exile, and sought to use her as a mechanism for destroying the Force itself. The Exile defeated the Sith Lords, foiled Kreia's plan, and disappeared into deep space searching for Revan. The galaxy was essentially returned to the same state as it was in before the events of KotOR 2.
A few things about this: first, it all happened behind the scenes; the Jedi of the TOR era don't even know what really happened, in fact the only people who ever knew were the Exile and her companions. Second, because the events of KotOR 2 didn't really change the political landscape of the galaxy in any significant way, it's really more of an historical footnote to the Jedi Civil War rather than a major event in its own right.
This is absolutely not to say the story of KotOR 2 wasn't important. Taken in the context of the Timeline series, however, we decided it would be confusing and that the next note in the history of the galaxy should be the Jedi Civil War.
Thanks for all the feedback and interest in the game and in the Timeline videos. You guys remind us of why we're doing all this, so keep it up.
Cheers
And then BioWare's Lead Writer Daniel Erickson explains how marriage was handled in the Jedi Order:
Originally Posted by simmeh
So this is all well and good, but something's bugging me. Someone else brought it up in this topic, but it seemed to have been ignored.
"... fourth-generation Jedi ... father and grandfather had been Sith infiltrators ..."
Was there some change in the Jedi code that allowed for marriage and children after the Civil War? And was it changed back sometime later? I mean, I could theorize that the whole Revan/Bastilla thing caused a reform for a few hundred years, which was then revoked when it was discovered that there were entire families of infiltrators spanning several generations, but that's just speculation.
Am I really the only one concerned with this, or has BioWare already explained it away somewhere?
How rare that I see a question I'm allowed to answer!
Following the decimation of the Jedi Order as revealed in Knights of the Old Republic 2, the Jedi were forced to bend and rethink many of their restrictions in order to rebuild. There is no denying that Force sensitivity can run strongly in particular bloodlines and so for a brief period of history it was allowable to romance, marry and have children much like anyone else. After a series of horrific feuds and padawans lost to the dark side in the following century, however, the Jedi once again tightened their rules. In the time of The Old Republic it is permissible to have children and even to marry within the order but only with direct permission from the Jedi Council. To be granted permission the Jedi must prove a perfect detachment and serenity, basically that he or she does not care more about their prospective spouse or parent of their child than they do about any other Jedi. Permission is very rarely granted but the rule has become something of a release valve, both relaxing the order from the oppression of earlier years and often bringing budding romances to the surface so they can be dealt with by Jedi Masters.
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Posted 4/19/2010 6:44:37 PMI hope they decide to have sets of stances for each type of lightsaber because only having one technique for all double-bladed lightsabers, for example, lacks the depth that they have poured into other aspects of the game.
So yes, I would love to see a reverse hold, two-handed hold, and a single-handed hold for single lightsaber users and equivalent stances for double-bladed and dual lightsabers.
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Posted 4/17/2010 10:32:25 PMThe council with its strict rules doubled by the Senate, are pretty a failure system in my opinion.
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Posted 4/18/2010 3:56:17 PMIt is not because we are dressed in black, and privilege 'the end justifies the means' methods, added to deception, lies... that we are compulsorily evil.
You know what's really evil? A jedi council limiting your deeds and acts at a such extent that they steal/train you since your birth, prevents you from being married, prevents you from doing this, that...
The more I have freedom, the more I feel happy. This is the reason why the Dark side is the way I have chosen to follow...
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Posted 4/18/2010 8:49:18 PMCompared to a religion group having a code, the Empire are MUCH worse than the Jedi. You can leave the Jedi Order if you have problems with their rules and want to leave, they won't stop you or execute you for leaving. I wouldn't put it past the Empire to "deal with" people who want to quit.
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Posted 4/19/2010 6:06:58 AMEvil is just a point of view, anyone can be evil even the republic. We have seen this in the treat of peace.
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Posted 4/19/2010 6:41:22 PMMy point of the Atomic bomb was we all do things we don't want to do to win a war, its WAR there's no holding back. The Empire needed to get some of there planets back and the actual peace treaty made sure it was agreed on there terms. I don't call that evil at all, that was just a brilliant strategy.
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Posted 4/20/2010 12:10:45 AMThe Empire will easily argue that the Republic is evil, and vice versa.
The passion that both of us could show while arguing in favor of our respective factions, gives a glimpse of what will really happen when the game will be released. If both sides are so attached to their convictions, then the battle promises to be fierce and interesting.
Another sign that Bioware managed to get us immersed enough in the story. I don't recall having such conversations while I was a WoW player.
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Posted 4/17/2010 11:08:24 PMI mean they take you at a young age so that means no getting it on. Who wants to be a 50 year old virgin? Or like yoda a 900 year old virgin LOL.
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Posted 4/18/2010 7:13:00 AMWound in the Force::GoHann (lvl 35 Maurader)