Official BioWare Stance On Game Testing Leaks

Sean Dahlberg, Star Wars: The Old Republic Community Manager, posted a clarification of the Game Testing Agreement this morning:

We have seen many questions about the Game Testing Agreement and we want to clarify a few things.

1. Per the Game Testing Agreement, a user can state there is a Game Testing Program.
2. Per the Game Testing Agreement, when someone is selected for testing, they can disclose the fact that they are a member of the Game Testing Program.

That is the extent of it and anything else would be a violation of the Game Testing Agreement. Users that are found to post or even repost confidential materials will be permanently removed from the Game Testing Program and subject to discipline up to and including permanent removal from the service. This is not limited to screenshots of the game but taking "screen grabs" or sharing of confidential documentation and materials.

If you have any questions pertaining to this, ask them here.


We are intrigued regarding the use of the term "permanent removal from the service" language after stating removal from the Game Testing Program itself; this may indicate that BioWare and LucasArts are taking steps to permanently ban violators from subscribing to the retail version of the game.

Further clarifications after the jump.
If or when someone is invited to Game Testing, such a document is confidential and should they share it in any form, it is a violation of the Game Testing Agreement.

To make it super simple, unless it is something that is public accessible on the website without being logged in and posted by The Old Republic Team and it's not someone simply posting "I'm in Game Testing", it is probably a violation of the Game Testing Agreement.

This includes people who are just reposting and were not directly sent the information from The Old Republic Team.


Unless it includes confidential information, an individual's computer specs are their personal data and it's no issue if they share them.

Yes, Sean's "NDA" is part of his job... and I like my job. It allows me to help drive my team to give all of you great content and news and updates and, once the game is out, keep everyone as informed as possible. So, I don't want to violate my "NDA" because it doesn't just mean I'm out of testing, I could be out of a job

On a more serious note, though, while the Game Tester Agreement is full of legalese, the short of it all is that outside of two simple statements, there isn't much of anything that a Tester can say or do outside of the game and any related communication tools provided.

For anyone discussing things that may be questionable; if you can't find the information posted by someone from the TOR Team in a public area (i.e., something you can read without being logged in)... don't quote or discuss it.

For anyone caught violating the rules, they will be notified and depending on the situation, they may be (1) temporarily suspended, they may be (2) removed from any testing, or they may be (3) permanently removed from the service or a combination of the above. Regardless, they will be notified of such actions and any and all relevant information will be documented.


"Permanently removed from the service" is mentioned again separate from the Game Testing Program.

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  • #38
    So, I'm a little confused, has testing started, or is this just a discussion about the disclaimer when you sign up for testing?
  • #37
    They are nowhere near the testing phase, if they dont even have the jedi classes ready for a public demo, my opinion is they still have plenty to implement (i.e. guilds,auction house,mounts) and wont open the testing up to the public till they have all those assets in and working somewhat properly. my guess is somewhere round jan-feb
  • #36
    If I were Bioware I wouldn't let anyone that has a website or a podcast that is specific to this game in any game testing or beta. This is why, I would want to keep these types of fan media in the dark so when they release things to the public the level of excitement that comes from the updates can stay organic and real and it will keep these sites and podcasts new and exciting every week. Free advertising really. If they let all of these outlets start testing the game then things could get really hush hush and fake. Honestly if I were you guys I wouldn't touch beta. In my opinion it conflicts with the purpose of this site. You guys would know way more then you would be telling us and then you become Bioware. Your speculations start to dissapear because you now know stuff that you can't speculate about.

    Look I know you will be professional but, I remember when you guys went to Lucas Arts studios in S.F. and you could not reveal what you saw until they said. It just didn't sit well with me and the site got quite quiet. I know many of DH team will disagree with me because they want to test the game but, you can't be a true info site if your holding back info. Wouldn't that be really hard anyways, how can you truely be sure you remember what you played in beta and what you can actually talk about?
  • #42
    We unfortunately cannot discuss current or future business-related plans. This includes divulging if we are or aren't participating in the Game Testing program.

    Have some faith. :)
  • #40
    Actualyl it should probably be the opposite. People like DH have much more invested then just the time it took to apply and accept the testing invite.

    Are you telling everyone that the confidential information is better in the hands of random players that have the technology of you tube and blogs to post whatever they want and with little consequence.

    As for people like DH having the info before most people and "losing the excitement when releasing the info" is just silly. How can you be a game info site and you are the one left in the dark till the end? Sites like DH aren't here to only show emotion. Their main purpose is to get solid info delivered to the fans. Its the fans' job to post their "feelings" and "emotions" when the NDA is lifted.
  • #29
    If you read closely the terms clearly state: If you violate the terms of service we will send several violent goons to your house.
  • #30
    oh shit, its goons! (anyone who played eve will lol)
  • #24
    i just want to know if this round is filled up so i can stop checking my email.
  • #21
    Did the entire DH team apply for testing? I know it's unlikely you were all accepted, but it could be a problem if you were. Any information that you could glean from future dissections could potentially be information you had already learned while playing the beta, in which case you couldn't report on it. It would mean an end to the speculation we've all come to love. On the other hand, if just a couple of you were not participating, you could handle all of that stuff with the understanding that those members playing the beta would not tell you, or us readers, what was accurate and what wasn't.

    Sorry for being nitpicky, but I'd hate to see the great work you do suffer needlessly.
  • #43
    We unfortunately cannot discuss current or future business-related plans. This includes divulging if we are or aren't participating in the Game Testing program.

    Have some faith. :)
  • #25
    I would think the DH team would be pretty professional about it, able to keep what is NDA and what is public separate.

    I have seen people participate in Public speculation and discussion, without ever breaking the NDA, nor people knowing they were in Beta.


  • #27
    I also trust DH to be professional, but that would not make a difference here. They would be unable to mention anything they had seen in the beta unless it had been positively confirmed in officially released media. Say, for example, a new dev dispatch were released, in which a character were shown riding a speeder in such a way that strongly suggests it is not on rails, but a fully-functional mount. Normally, the DH dissection would mention this, with an emphasis that it was informed speculation, and everyone would be excited to see it. However, if the entire team were in the beta, and had been riding mounts for months, they would be legally prevented from mentioning it at all, or even responding to community questions about it. This would have a profound impact on their coverage of all things TOR from now until launch.
  • #32
    I would not think their speculation would be considered a violation of the NDA, because they are not specifically talking about something from beta, but rather a Dissection of a Publicly released bit of information/media.

    In other words, their dissection would be the same, regardless if they were in beta or not, so it could not be a violation of the NDA. It is like how a Judge or Lawyer is able to work around knowledge that is inadmissible to a case.


    I agree it is a tough line to balance, but I believe they professional enough to not slip up and say something like 'Well in Beta', 'What we have seen', or something else that only someone in beta would be able to say. And as a DH reader, I would take everything they say as part of their normal 'Dissection', rather than considering it as if we were chatting on the Beta Forums.

  • #23
    Well, they've already played low-level characters on 3 out of the 4 starter planets. It is a good question though. If game testing hits on various areas of the game besides the origin worlds, there could be some major reveals for a class story :(
  • #26
    The Story spoilers and the heavy Story focus of TOR, is one of the reasons I would think avoiding Beta would a better choice. While I would enjoy the beta forums, seeing the Devs concepts/ideas and getting to provide feedback on the mechanics, I don't think I would want to spoil all the stories and the experience of the game when it is polished.

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