DevTracker Highlights For The Week of November 15, 2010

In the same week as the Crew Skills update and the announcement of a new Community Manager, you would expect the DevTracker to be abound with entries. Surprisingly enough there were quite a few this week in response. This week's DevTracker Highlights include the introduction of a new Community Manager, details on Crew Skills, and a response to speculation on a possible uptick in community communication from the developers.
Starting chronologically, Online Community Manager Stephen Reid announces his new role on the Star Wars: The Old Republic team:

Stephen Reid
Hi. My name's Stephen Reid, and I'm your new Community Manager.

Like probably all of you, I've been a Star Wars fan for almost my entire life - starting with the original Star Wars in 1977. When that Star Destroyer came thundering into frame, the unforgettable John Williams' score blasting out in futuristic Dolby Stereo... well my 5-year-old mind was well and truly blown.

Fast forward to 1999, and I made a pilgrimage to Portland, Oregon (of all places) to see The Phantom Menace on opening night - midnight showing, natch. When Darth Maul's double-bladed lightsaber ignited... well, my 26-year-old mind was blown again.

Fast forward to 2003, and from my bedroom in a south London flat, I experience BioWare's Knights of the Old Republic on Xbox. When I realized exactly who I was playing... well shoot, wasn't your mind blown? I also knew without a shadow of a doubt that with BioWare, Star Wars was in good hands.

Which brings us on fast forward right up to last week, when I arrived to work at BioWare Austin and saw - well, we're not ready to discuss that yet. All we can say publicly right now is that it involved minds and... actually let's just move on in case I get my own intro thread deleted.

So, let's get the vital info in before the lock: I've worked in the games industry, and in various types of content and community management roles, for about 12 years. I'm a huge believer in the power of online communities to bring the creators of games closer to their fans, and vice versa. Quite frankly, I have one of the coolest jobs in the world, and that's before you add the Star Wars factor.

In other words, I'm absolutely thrilled, excited, privileged and humbled to be here and working on Star Wars: The Old Republic. It's an incredible opportunity to serve you, the community, and to help make what I know will be a landmark MMORPG.

There's still plenty to do, to see, to talk about and of course to debate about that galaxy far, far away that we're preparing for you to explore. I think it's going to be an amazing journey. And I hope you're ready to come along.

Thanks for reading.


Responding to MegaBubble on the fact that people can't be jack of all trade crafters, Damion Schubert explains why that is in greater detail:

Damion Schubert
To be more precise, players can have up to three crew skills but only one of those can be a crafting skill. The fictional reason is that you only can have room for one crafting table on your ship, but the real reason is that we don't want all players to be self-sufficient.

We call the system Crew Skills because they are skills possessed by your amorphous crew as a whole. If your crew can go treasure hunting, you can order any of your crew members to run treasure hunting missions. Vette may have a bonus to treasure hunting (being a native treasure hunter and all), but to be honest we currently have these bonuses set to be relatively mild - we don't want people to choose NOT to take their favorite companion out on the field with them because the economic bonus to keeping them on the ship is that much greater.


Damion Schubert expounds further in the thread:

Damion Schubert
You can have three gathering skills, or three mission skills, or one of each. Or two gathering and a craft. The only limit (right now) is you can only have one crafting skill, and you can only have three as a whole.


In a later response, Damion Schubert answers MorgonKara's question on whether Crew Skills are a permanent choice:

Damion Schubert
Originally Posted by MorgonKara
Are the three crew skills a permanent choice or can you experiment with different combinations and change them?

You can unlearn skills. If you relearn it later, you must progress it up again. (You will not lose your schematics for crafting skills, but they are inaccessible until you reach the proper skill level).


Damion Schubert explains a few more points BioWare's philosophy on Crew Skills:

Damion Schubert
So just to throw a couple more stray thoughts about our philosophy.

  • No, you the player cannot craft currently - which is to say you cannot choose to watch the progress bar fill up yourself. That being said, to us, watching a progress bar has always been the least interesting part of crafting in other MMOs. The part of being a crafter that is interesting to us is things like finding rare schematics, finding hard-to-find components, and the social game of finding customers and suppliers. We really wanted devoted crafters to be able to focus on these aspects of crafting, and not so much on the 'watch a progress bar go forward' part of things. Crafting should be a social thing - staring at a progress bar is not.


  • No, you don't see companions running missions out 'in the real world'. While I laugh at the idea of a stream of companion characters filing into the palace on Alderaan, it's unfeasible for a lot of reasons.


  • The real test of the value of crafting is less about whether companions or players are swinging the hammer and tongs, and more about how the itemization of crafting is balanced in a way that the gear is useful. Crafting is important to the systems team, and we're devoted to ensuring that crafted gear has a place in the economy, especially at the endgame, and doubly especially for the devoted crafters.


  • It's worth noting that we really want the system to support the casual crafter (the guy who is taking crafting largely to outfit himself while leveling up) and the devoted crafter (the guy who wants to be known as the best Armormech in the galaxy). Supporting the former means making the system accessible and easy. Supporting the latter means ensuring that hard work can allow you to provide goods and services that almost no one in the galaxy can. The systems design team is striving to satisfy both groups of people.


  • My own personal goal is that some crafters can get so good that players all over the server seek them out. My problem being a crafter in most other MMOs is that you tend to become a guild's pet at some point, and you're expected to do all of the work for free. We want those devoted crafters to be exceptional enough that they can actually demand a price, and that people will actually break out of the guild in order to pursue those goods and services. The system isn't there yet, but we have plans...


Continuing the parade of developer interaction, Georg Zoeller posted his thoughts about epic Star Wars racial abilities.

GeorgZoeller

Originally Posted by
Simple:

Because Ackbar is AWESOME!

And he knows when something is a trap...

If Mon-Cals are in the game, they should get a "Trap detection" racial skill.


And I was more thinking about giving them a 'State the Obvious' ability, usable once per fight.




Last for this week we would like to leave the community with a high note for those wondering if there will be an increase in communication between the developers and the community:

Stephen Reid
Originally Posted by IaoKim
Of course some friday updates will be better than others but does this update mark a new tread of increased dev communication and an increase in the overall of clarification and information about the game?


Yes! No! Maybe?

I'm quite aware that there's been a lack of direct communication over the last couple of months (although that wasn't part of a plan!), and we hope to rectify that a little (maybe even a lot - your mileage may vary). It may take a while as the seized cogs and gears start to turn again, but it should happen. There are plans afoot.

As others have said, indeed, we are heading towards launch and the closer we get the more we'll be talking about game specifics. There's still a way to go (and plenty to cover) but that's a natural effect of the release getting closer.

I will say, on the general topic, that one man's 'discussion of vision' is another man's 'irritatingly vague waffle'. So my job, in part, is to try and get a good mixture of game-specific details and broad vision statements from the devs to you folk.

That way, hopefully, everyone's satisfied to a degree.

I'm sure you've heard this before (and will again) but there are loads of people who work hard to bring you updates week in and week out. On their behalf, thanks for your enthusiasm and praise - when it comes.

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  • #19 Davidicus
    State the Obvious?

    Mon Calamari says in a fight, "You're hurt!" or, "Press the trigger to fire!" or, "If you die, I'll be captured and eaten in a seafood restaurant!"

    I liked how Schubert described crafting. Even though the player can't fill up that progress bar himself, with how he described their stance and goals for crafting, who f'in cares if the player or the companions do the work? Thanks for the DevTracker.
  • #17 Hiro-Protagonist
    It is worth mentioning that Damion Schubert said that BW was going to talk about crafting "soon" and that he was excited about it. And guess what? Mr. Schubert was right on both accounts. We weren't being jerked around, and from everything I have seen the devs are fully committed to delivering a compelling crafting scene, even if it isn't what some would like to see. On top of that, Mr. Schubert seems genuinely excited to communicate the philosophy of crafting to us SWTOR geeks. I have to say that I really appreciate the uptick in BW involvement with the community.
  • #13 Vanlan
    Again, this pushes me to have a couple pure gathering alts to supply my crafting characters.
  • #15 Hewo
    If you are willing to level alts to the maximum level necessary needed to obtain the companion characters and provide a reasonable relationship towards them that keeps them from leaving and also leveling all alts to the appropriate skill level then you deserve to be showered with crafting mats.
    What I want people to realize that if you just create an alt, 6-8 companion characters don't magically pop up. You have to level to get them! Also (inserting speculation) I think you are only able to gather and only able to perform missions that are LEVEL APPROPRIATE. So if you do level a few alts to say level 10 that gets you 1-2 companions I believe that you will be blocked from gaining more rare resources, and stuck getting basics unless you continue to level up.
    If people are willing to go through all of this to get stockpiling alts, then props to them, they have put in the time and effort and deserve the just rewards.
  • #16 salmonleap
    I'm cool with that. I tend to be an explorer/crafter player anyway and I intend to play through all the classes at least once just to see the different stories. I'll end up with several crafting alts just by being me.
  • #12 frost1977
    i hope that jedi can still construct their own lightsaber. or upgrade it if the one from the cinematic is it.
  • #11 r2d2arm
    One of Damion's follow-up replies indicated you could stare at 5 progress bars on your crew skills page. Do you think that refers to having 5 companions? Or simply 5 different crafting skill sets?
  • #14 Daelite
    What he was saying about the 5 different progress bars was this. You can have up to 5 of your companions working at any one time. Those 5 companions will only be able to work based on the 3 Crew Skills you have chosen for your crew. Of those 3 chosen crew skills, only 1 can actually be a crafting profession (if you have chosen a crafting profession, then your other 2 crew skills would be filled in using any combo or Gathering and/or Missions. If you opt to not take a crafting prof, then all 3 of your Crew Skills can be any combo or Gathering and/or Missions)

    Hopw that helps.
  • #10 Mongo
    I wonder if there will be a system in place that prevents making mission alts. Maybe a level cap on item grade? Interesting to see how it plays out.
  • #9 Buttniks
    What do you guys think about the "Master crafters". I saw a interview with Daniel Erickson saying players can become "Master crafters" after a certain amount of time invested into crafting. They will be able to make gear close to the top tier and more bonuses than "casual crafters" . Also that there's gonna be recipes that only 1 or 2 players have in the entire servers.
  • #18 Hiro-Protagonist
    I think it's awesome. That's the way crafting should be just as there are the elite PvP players, elite PvE raiders, etc. There will be elite crafters (dare I say l33t?). From the context of the interviews and questions I get the distinct impression that the top recipes will take both commitment (i.e. crafting mastery status) and rare drops. Casual players will probably be able to keep uo on level appropriate proficiences that offer gear equivalent to quest rewards but below group quests (which is a standard MMO mechanic). However, Erickson seems to hint that if you really want to dive into the crafting system that the rewards will be greater, with possibilities of crits. I have a feeling that the top crafters will have +crit crafting bonuses and possibly even 1 use 100% crit rewards. I am currently subbing LOTRO and this is how their crafting system works, and it works well. The crit recipes are where it is at.
  • #8 spideygenx
    I feel this system will be very entertaining - who doesn't want to send some guys out- go on some quests and when u get back to ur ship you have numerous loot items and/or other additional rewards to enjoy. Would be really good if they had an iphone app where u could send guys out on the fly while ur at work.
  • #6 TIIME
    Why they didn't put that information up on the official Crew Skill page to begin with is beyond me. It would of clarified a lot of things.

    "My own personal goal is that some crafters can get so good that players all over the server seek them out. My problem being a crafter in most other MMOs is that you tend to become a guild's pet at some point, and you're expected to do all of the work for free. We want those devoted crafters to be exceptional enough that they can actually demand a price, and that people will actually break out of the guild in order to pursue those goods and services. The system isn't there yet, but we have plans..."

    I like what I'm hearing. Crafting, Trade Skills, etc. should have the utmost relevance, or you shouldn't even bother to implement it into the game.
  • #3 Bhel
    It looks good to me, bit worrisome is for the npc gathering system being usable only when logged in game it might become similar annoyance to what EVE had with it's skill training system until they introduced the queue system.
  • #7 salahdihn
    That's not the impression I had from reading the interview with Daniel Erickson.
    "Let's say I don't have Vette and I have someone else with me; I can actually call back to my ship and say, "Hey Vette! Why don't you go find me some of this material? I don't care where you get it -- just go." So that is gathering."
    There seems to be an option for gathering missions, just like the other skills.
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