Stephen Reid Comments On Unexpected Weekend Maintenance

Many Star Wars: The Old Republic players had their weekend play time interrupted when an unexpected maintenance period brought servers down for several hours. Stephen Reid has responded on the official forums with some explanation behind the decision.

Stephen ReidOur Live team took the decision to roll out today's 1.1.0c patch during Friday night/Saturday morning with the knowledge that it would affect a higher than usual number of players. Unfortunately, we had to make changes that required server downtime. The Live team felt those changes were urgently required and that was why the maintenance was scheduled. Generally speaking, we try and ensure all required maintenance happens during our weekly maintenance period, but this was one situation where we had to move forward quickly; to not do so could have led to severe performance issues across the service as a whole.

The full post can be found after the jump.

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Stephen ReidHey everyone; I appreciate everyone's views on this topic and I can understand the feelings being expressed here.

Our Live team took the decision to roll out today's 1.1.0c patch during Friday night/Saturday morning with the knowledge that it would affect a higher than usual number of players. Unfortunately, we had to make changes that required server downtime. The Live team felt those changes were urgently required and that was why the maintenance was scheduled. Generally speaking, we try and ensure all required maintenance happens during our weekly maintenance period, but this was one situation where we had to move forward quickly; to not do so could have led to severe performance issues across the service as a whole.

I want to address a couple of other points from the OP:

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Originally Posted by Demorgoth
1: You post a warning less than two hours before the servers are brought down. Ok, if this is an emergency, tell us it's an emergency. Don't call it 'maintenance' when you decide to pull down all the servers on a Friday night with less than 2 hours notice.

This is a little inaccurate. I'm not sure where your timing comes from, but our original post regarding the downtime was posted at 5:10PM CST (Austin time). At that point, we were unsure of the start time for the maintenance so posted without it. The post was updated with the exact timing of the maintenance at 8:54PM CST, which would give just over five hours notice of the exact timing.

Five hours is not a generous window of notice, and for that we apologize. In this instance, we updated with the precise timing as soon as we could, but we'll strive to improve.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Demorgoth
2: The post is highly ambiguous. If you're pulling the servers down on a Friday, put Friday in the title. If you're pulling the servers down today, in 2 hours, put that in the title to get the word out. The title gives the overwealing impression that the Patch + Maintenance are on Jan 31st.

Overall, this is a fair point. Generally speaking, every Friday we post details of our upcoming maintenance period to give plenty of advance notice. Because of the timing of this patch, we thought it might be easier to roll both notices into one. We didn't feel the ambiguity was too extreme, as the upcoming patch was detailed up front, but I can see how it might have confused some. We'll improve.

As stated, the patch was deemed necessary and urgent enough to be rolled out on a Friday night/Saturday morning (Austin time). We didn't take this lightly, and don't expect or wish it to be a regular occurrence.

To those of you in Europe, I want you to know that we'll be discussing maintenance windows and how we can improve their timing this coming week. We may not have an update immediately (and not before the scheduled maintenance on January 31st) but we have been paying attention to your opinions.

Thanks again for the feedback - it helps us know where to improve.

 

 

Comments

  • #16 Seyenne93

    I appretiate BioWare addressing issues as fast as they can. I live in Europe so the timing was a bit bad for me but I didn't loose the whole saturday to play the game. I understand both sides and I was a bit angry at the patch being on the weekend, but what I've seen from the post it was either that or a laggy and crashing game. And I dislike laggy and crashing games more then ruined game time.

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  • #12 Javahead

    The problem is that probably 80% of the people playing this game are the ones that started playing WoW like, 2007 or so, when the game had gone through all its growing pains and now they expect everything to run as smoothly and flawlessly as WoW.

    For a player like I, who was there for the launch of WoW and remember all the insane and game-breking issues that WoW had at launch, have no problem at all with the issues and problems. I know these will be adressed eventually and in a month or two it will run as flawlessly as WoW.

    All the WoW-babies can go back to their dumbed down available-for-all single-button game and keep on ruin it by their whining on the forums. I don't want them playing SWTOR.

  • #8 thecheesypoofs

    News Flash at 18:00 !

    MMO Players whine and bitch about anything/everything and the blogosphere likes to post unnecessary news.

    Stay tune for more unnecessary whinning, crying and useless posts.

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    I bow to companies that have the courage to make a MMO game these days with this ADD/Reality TV generation.

    I could never tolerate this BS all day long and would simply do a write-off, accept the loss and go back making single player games. You get one wave of BS from idiots at the release and that's it but with a MMO game, the waves keep going and going and never stops.

    If the servers would've lagged/crashed = whine and bitch

    If they bring the server down for an EMERGENCY UPDATE = whine and bitch

    Can't win.

  • #10 Kaiser

    Heh. That's win. I agree completely.

  • #3 bobicous

    Wow so you charge a monthly fee, break the game with every patch, do nothing to address any of the major issues, and then keep adding more and more downtime, and you wonder why the game is dying before our eyes!

    The big deal Ive is that some people only have a limited amount of playtime, and losing that just so they can rush out a patch, that will no doubt add even more bugs, is just stupid when regular mainenance  is just a few days away!

  • #9 Ive_Defected

    Quote from bobicous »

    Wow so you charge a monthly fee, break the game with every patch, do nothing to address any of the major issues, and then keep adding more and more downtime, and you wonder why the game is dying before our eyes!

    The big deal Ive is that some people only have a limited amount of playtime, and losing that just so they can rush out a patch, that will no doubt add even more bugs, is just stupid when regular mainenance  is just a few days away!

    Ive bolded the best parts. Irony...

  • #6 Zennhorn

    ... wait .. you are complaining cause they are trying to fix all the problems quickly?

    im pretty sure im still waiting for things to be fixed in wow that bugged me in vanilla, that they keep "patching" with more "features" once every 2years...sure the sudden maintenance was an inconvience, it was even my saturday afternoon/evening.

    Morale of the story, shutup ... wanna complain .. wow forums that way ====>>

    we don't want to hear it!

  • #15 Sedista

    "You are a idiot." stopped reading after that, can't take anything seriously from someone that resorts to namecalling on forums...

     

     

  • #14 Doomgrin

    Sedista...

    You are an idiot.  Patches are pushed to all servers at once.  Let me explain that the Earth is a sphere.  Due to the rotation of the Earth, not all spots have same amount of daylight and at given single point in time.  This gave rise to the concept of time zones.

    So my friend, when a company based in one part of the world pushes maintenance on its home servers that is done simultaneously around the world.  With the time zone phemonenan, this has the effect of being at different "times" (here referring to daylight and the associated chronometers) around the world.

    Last edited by Doomgrin on 1/31/2012 6:01:02 AM
  • #11 Sedista

    I'm a paying customer, so I have the right to complain when I get far less service then other players. EU player are treated like second rate customers, maintenance is always on crappy times for us EU players and never for US players. So in my opinion my complaints are valid.

  • #5 Kaiser

    It's people like you that are ruining the game community. The game dying in front of your eyes? Your fault. 

    Speaking of which, I'm going to go back and play some more PvP because this game is awesome.

    Bye.

  • #4 walliedirt

    Really? Just really?. Its not like the end of the world and it wasn't like it was down for hours on end. Trust me I welcome fixes and I'm glad they are actively fixing issues some people are having. Can't make everyone happy I know, but come on this is the wrong thing to be crying about.

  • #2 Darevsek

    You know, they should have done the 15 minutes in game timer and shut down... oh wait, then people would be QQ'ing about short time frame... Oh wait, nearly 5 hours is still not enough time for these people and still QQ'ing.  Seriously people, they gave you hours not minutes instead of a day.  How about you think happy thoughts on the patch that’s going in, and when the server comes back up, log in and play.  You know, I wish I could throw most of these QQing kids on 28.8 or heck i'll give them the speedy 36.6 dial up, with the old EQ that had daily patches that took 10-45 minutes to just download.  Then have a character that when you died you lost all the coins you had on you (yes, for those who don't remember you used to loose your coins on the body when you died in EQ when it first started)  Then maybe they would be more appreciative of the speed of their high speed internet and infrequent patching done to games today.

  • #1 Ive_Defected

    i dont understand why people get so butthurt about things like this. The game needs maintinence, they gave 5 hours notice. What more needs to be said on it?

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